Setting on the couch with my brother Kenneth to my right side, with the kitchen on his right side, and our mother in front of us on her knees, saying she was tired, of tying, are shoe laces, and instructed us to tie, are shoes, she was helping Kenneth with his, he was probably around two years old, and I around three, while tying mine, she said I can't believe they didn't give you pain medicine, and I am so glad they didn't, and after tying my shoes, with no help or instruction, I was observing the engineering of my leg braces, and even tried turning one of the screws, it wouldn't budge, didn't ever try that again, decided not wise to miss with them.....